... , yeah sure! I tried to use the same standards that I use with 2.79, but the results are bad, too. To raise an old topic but I had the same experience this weekend. Set the scene to scaling of 100 in Blender, Select the object and also set the export FBX option scale to 100 as well. After opening Blender there's usually a default cube present. As I said before: Why the hell is it there, if it does not do anything? It is free to download for Mac, PC or Linux. Cura will show you a nice blue checkerboard space which represents the build plate / space on our 3D printer which will help you in seeing if your item is too large, too small, etc. In case of millimeters, I set it 0.001. https://snag.gy/bqJyK4.jpg, Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. So if you want your STL data to be in millimeters, and your scene’s uses that unit too, you have to either: In any case, thanks for the report, but no bug here, just stupidity of STL format…. Most things I get are calibrated from technical engineers, ending up with 1 BU being 1mm or 0.1 mm. I am using Blender to create STL files for 3D printing. I tried to export and import stl and to me nothing seems changed... 1 blender unit is still exported as 1 stl unit (irrelevant of the scene scale setting) so it's unclear what this patch did... Is there documentation about it? (Thanks Takeshi for providing this under CC-BY-SA license) Import it into blender using file->import->stl; Scale the model down to a managable size by pressing "S" key and typing 0.01 followed by enter. Worked: before 2.73, Short description of error I filed a same bug but it was never looked at like this here. Lithophane Using Blender: This is NOT an Instructable on how to create a lithophane using Blender from scratch, it is simply instructions on how use the .blend file found in this Instructable to create your own lithophane.I am assuming you have some basic Blender skills to b… Import the STL into any other program (not Blender) (I'm using PrusaSlicer for 3d printing), and notice it is at 1/1000th the scale. If you want an STL file with (implied) units as millimeters, then you have to set global export scale accordingly (1000). Thanks, Sure, it should help until this is fixed (if it was broken, not sure). I might see if my Python skills are up to suggesting a patch. Considering that the default cube in Blender is really only 2cm^3, that means the viewport is zoomed in by 100 if we compare it with UE4 standards. I need to be able to scale meshes imported from Blender via .stl… Don't try to explain why it does not work, just make it work! Exercise: Exporting an STL. This algorithm is able to solidify shapes like Möbius strips, Klein bottles, architectural wall layouts and many more which the Simple Mode isn’t able to do. When I open them in Cura, they are extremely small (like 1.3mm) and should be much bigger. I found a new way to scale STLs in FreeCAD where you don’t need to use the Python console. How can that be correct behaviour? I don't care how it's treated during import as long as I can put it into correct scale in blender and have the same scaling in viewport and output file. Well ,change that accordingly in an empty scene and save it as a startup scene maybe? There are bigger printers out there too. I understand that it is not fitting to every case, but isn't this one more reason that you should be able to change it to your needs? Thanks everyone for the assistance! Blender’s interface is weird or glitchy. A friend of mine gave me some STL files of something he would like me to print. Also pressing to align the viewport zoom to everything does not help, because the camera clipping is too small. That way regardless of what the STL format does or does not include, end users can set a scale that works for their models and their 3D printer without having to fiddle with the manual export settings (which are not reflected in the extra 3D Printing tools which also has an export button!). 2. If you want the data to be expressed in millimeters use the scaling factor in the exporter. This means no extra multiplication is needed during exporting. Is there a unifying theory behind how Blender handles this? I am also experiencing this as Blender thinks in terms of 1 “Unit” = 1 Meter and Cura thinks 1 “Unit” = 1mm. Did you ever need to scale your object in multiple dimensions and export it to an external format, like .stl ? Go to the Part Workbench. Blender has multiple tools to accurately measure distances and support for multiple units. I work in metric but I expect it would be even more handy for people working in imperial sizes to automatically convert to millimeters. This is tricky subject matter... it is more arbitrary/personal than you'd think. if valid. Having a plant then with 15m length ends in a length of 15.000 BU. In 2.8 I have to change the scale to 1000 before export (it’s a bit boring do it every time). I am using the STL files with Cura for the Ultimaker 2. Blender is a powerful, free, and open source program that enables you to effectively “subdivide” (into multiple polygons) and smooth your model to achieve the desired 3D printed surface finish. Blender start up defaults to “Blender Units” with no scale. Not too long ago Blender units were exactly as STL units... Not directly related to 'real world' units at all... Until the scene unit settings were added (and cycles makes some assumptions too I think). Scaling objects with constant wall thickness for 3D printing. Doing the happy dance. All the STL files I have downloaded from the Internet have been to the correct scale so I assume other applications have been able to get a more user friendly output. Active 4 months ago. @Bastien Montagne (mont29) probably one for you? Simply enabling new Scene Unit option when exporting should work here…, Hello! But if I use any other scaling it get's wrong with or without button on. Best regards, You can delete it by placing the mouse cursor above it and pressing the 'Del' button. Posted on September 13, 2016 by Angus. That's no explanation for that... From what I can see, changing the scale of the scene to 0.001, makes the grid larger which visually implies that the data is already at the unit specified by the scene settings. If you purchase using a … See the scene pane. So unit scale was the solution and somehow this solved the errors also. Previously, scene's scaling (aka scene units) was not taken into account at all, so a 1BU object was always exported as 1BU, disregarding actual scene unit. How Blender deals with it internally and when connected to the outside world. Daniel. That’s all. So that you do not have to fiddle with it. If I do not do this the model is out of scale. Did you try messing with the actual scene scales ? How to edit and repair an STL file with 7 free STL editors: FreeCAD, SketchUp, Blender, Meshmixer, Meshlab, 3D Slash and SculptGL. The result is always correct when a scaling of 1is used. I've just run into another weird scaling issue that seems like it may be due to an animation related bug in the blender .fbx exporter. Select File > Import > STL and find the STL file you just saved.. With your file selected, click Import STL.. Now you should see your meshed object. I can see the code... but there's no real clear explanation. Import the STL. Well, answer is in the question I believe? When I exported the file using Blender 2.8 "File/Export/STL" the size was fine. Not sure why the difference. Finally a Blender >2.72 is usefull for 3D printing modelling. Blender can export to STL, which is a fairly standard file format for 3D printing. A person who keeps track of it? Solved. I've got two major problems: STL doesn't contain unit information; Blender can't run some algorithms at the millimeter scale. He put me in touch with the designer and he advised using NetFabb to fix the scaling or wait til he gets back to me with the corrected files. I've tried it several times in different ways. No matter which slicer I used afterwards. I have to agree with Bastien after some thought. How and why do we apply scale? Taking a 3d model from 100% to 75% or even upscaling to 125%? Opening STL files. To keep things this way, we finance it through advertising and shopping links. batch mod should be scene. Henceforth, there is no 'correct' or 'incorrect' scaling when exporting. Exact steps for others to reproduce the error I don't know the original intention of the feature so I will leave to Bastien, but reopening. 1. To accurately measure in Blender, while in edit mode go to the overlay menu in the top right corner. It seems to FINALLY (just tried in 2.76) be working. Can you try changing the setting to see if the result is fixed/changes? Step 4: To import diag. This section demonstrates the changes that occur to a mesh when exporting and re-importing an STL. Any workarounds? Again (and again, and again), there is no way to get an automatic correct behavior in all cases, due to STL files not conveying any scale info. Iman not See, how you can say that this is Vorrecht behaviour! OK, so here is the main issue: STL has no unit. I have already explained why and how it works in length, this site is not a forum, period. Blender is an Open Source 3D suite that you can download for free. Solved: Hi! However importing STL there are often scaling issues. Applying scale in Blender is a big mystery to many Blender users. It is the correct behavior, because Blender assumes default unit of STL file to be meter, hence a millimeter cube will have coords like 0.001, this is expected, normal, sane, correct behavior. Broken: 2.73a The Cura software assumes that STL files are in millimeters (I have been exchanging comments with their devs.) I know that STL files don't include a scaling! Also when I exported the file using Blender "3D Printing" module with the option "Apply scene scale settings on export" disabled the size was fine. How to measure in Blender? And I don't care about your technical explanation why it currently does not work either, because it is not relevant! Consequently, each application exports STL files in its own, default unit. Because of the extensive use of OpenGL (and some rather old versions of it), Blender often uses parts of the library that other programs may never touch. 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